I find it hard to engage myself on this platform on the values discussion because it seems the discussions loose focus. So I propose to try to discuss 1 specific value per topic.
Current:
librehosters is a network of cooperation and solidarity that uses free software
Proposed update:
librehosters is a network of cooperation and solidarity that uses and produces free software
This was part of the notes on LibreHosters kickoff meeting but was not included as a published value. For me it seems logical to add this one. Any different opinions?
I’m all for it. It would clarify that the software repositories on lab.libreho.st should be released under free software licenses. Would it make sense to propose a graduated change such as:
lightweight option: add and produces to the values statement.
midweight option: lightweight option + public software on lab.libreho.st is released under a free software license.
Another detail that might or might not be related to this proposal is the change we adopted for the CPP document: “Librehosters form a network…**” instead of “Librehosters is a network…”.
My intention is to update this in the sentence of the libreho.st frontpage and in the CPP document where the same sentence is copied from the frontpage.
In which document or location would this go?
I agree. Otherwise I propose to do that change on the frontpage after the CPP document approval.
I guess we can as well have a MR to propose both changes, each in one commit, and see how it flies with the rest of the network. The proposed changes do not seem in contradiction with any of our members’ use in any way.
I don’t know. The licensing was suggested at some point, so it could as well become a topic of discussion.
If this is the option that ends up being chosen, personally, I would prefer copyleft licenses either not be defined or that MIT be included in the list. I like to use that and CC-BY for things I create
All software artefacts that the co-operative produces to be licensed under a FSF approved license.
But I wonder if this might need some clarification:
Do you mean all repositories or only ones used to host software projects?
Would this apply only to public repos or also to private ones?
For example in the case of an repo used for Ansible server configuration, this might use several public roles that are available under a Free software license but this might be a private repo as it might contain a list of user accounts or other private information — I’d argue that there would be no need to apply a license, of any kind, to a repo like this as it is not public.
Private repositories, in my understanding, are not released.
I guess all repositories, unless there’s a good reason not to. E.g., some repositories are used for internal matters, and may contain stuff that is not public. So, what I mean is: all public repositories. And I actually mean: all public repositories MUST be free software then.
Therefore we don’t think it’s necessary to change the current wording.
If you have a strong objection, please reply here and join the public VoIP Gathering June 2019 tomorrow. We want to proceed with a release candidate tomorrow and will leave two weeks before finalizing version 1.0 of the CPP.
I closed the related MR but left the issue open. Unless strong objections come forward, I will close it tomorrow after the meeting.